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Posted by Anonymous at Thu Mar 15 18:07:21 2007
I do wish that SoC had accepted Avahi and GStreamer, and I saw other interesting projects not get accepted as well.  But to complain about projects that did get accepted seems rather unchivalrous.  If you got accepted, and they did not, would you want them complaining about how "so many GNOME projects got accepted in addition to GNOME itself, but my project didn't get accepted"?

Posted by Pete at Thu Mar 15 18:14:01 2007
I am more aligned with your definition of exciting than with Google's. On the other hand, I see where more information being available in online wikis has more direct benefit to Google.

Next year propose the Avahi-wiki system. An auto meshing worldwide wiki.

Posted by 77Down at Thu Mar 15 18:45:23 2007
Also DragonflyBSD project has not been accepted...

Posted by Ant Bryan at Thu Mar 15 19:35:12 2007
It's too bad because (obviously) the infrastructure is used by many projects. Metalink was not accepted either, and it is used by a few of the accepted projects. Hopefully people will work on Avahi under GNOME :)

Posted by Joey Hess at Thu Mar 15 20:06:17 2007
Ouch, I'm stunned that avahi didn't get accepted. And with ikiwiki, I have one of the three (or four?) wiki engines that did get accepted.

Posted by ken at Thu Mar 15 20:45:35 2007
It's too bad that cool projects like Avahi and GSt didn't get accepted, but I'm fine with more free wiki work being done.

The number of something is not an indicator of quality.  In fact, it may be an indicator of anti-quality: we only have a couple (real) web browsers, but they're pretty good.  There are only two real free typesetters (*roff and TeX): one historical, and the other because it's so good it wiped out the genre for a few decades.  Most web servers are free software, not because we have lots of them but because Apache totally dominates the field.

If we had a good wiki, we wouldn't need so many crappy ones.  I'm still waiting for a really good one.  Maybe SoC will help, or maybe not, but it's great that they're going to try.

Posted by Stoffe at Thu Mar 15 20:48:48 2007
Too bad. Both Avahi and Gstreamer are really important, IMO. Ah well, keep it up anyways! :)

Posted by erik at Thu Mar 15 20:54:41 2007
The Wiki engine projects should not get any SOC slots, there are already plenty and none of them are bringing anything really new to the table.

Posted by Jani Monoses at Thu Mar 15 21:00:11 2007
Maybe because they are important infrastructure projects they were not accepted. Hacking on Avahi and improving it is definitely harder than making a UI for nmap. The latter can leave a FOSS beginner student with a sense of accomplishment and stuck in the FOSS community, while a failed Avahi work may leave him bitter or disillusioned. Your project requires expert knowledge of C and security and whatnot. A UI or a wiki skin or whatever is not that critical. The idea with GSoC is getting people involved, not leaving important marks on the state of FOSS software in 3 months :) So think that the kernel guys are not even applying. There's a reason for that. Hard and important projects are better left to experienced developers and those are not what GSoC os about AFAIK. This may not be at all what the Google people though when not choosing Avahi though, I don't know. See the bright side of it ;)

Posted by michael schurter at Thu Mar 15 21:27:55 2007
Sorry to hear you didn't get accepted!  Do remember though that Google has every right to choose whomever they want based on whatever criteria they choose.  They could decide fetchmail really deserves more love, and who are we to argue with the almighty Google? ;)

And really wikis make a lot more sense for Google to support than Avahi.  Avahi is a wonderful project that I love, but frankly its got nothing to do with anything Google is interested in.

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