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Posted by jospoortvliet at Sun Mar 27 19:07:58 2011
Frankly, the apology for re-using existing technology instead of creating something new is imho very misplaced. Creating something new while there was a perfectly working solution, THAT would have warranted an apology for doing something stupid and wasting time and energy which could've been used in a more productive way.

This is exactly what the recent controversy about lack of collaboration between Canonical, NIH from GNOME and issues with FD.o is all about. It is stupid, silly, hurts Free Software, makes us all the laughing stock of the software world and makes sure we'll never get anywhere. If you feel threatened by someone who is smarter than you or doing better than you in one way or another: Work Harder. Don't go hide in your shell and play silly power games.

Yes, I believe that's what behind all this, and frankly, it just shows a lack of a SPINE.

Time to Grow Up, Lennart.

Posted by Lennart at Mon Mar 28 11:53:59 2011
Jos, uh? Where did that come from? My blog story does not actually include an apology, I just ask for understanding, that's all.

We do have to acknowledge that there are quite a number of people who are very unhappy with the need for a KDE identity account. How I know that? Because they complain to us. This is not at all about my own opinion. I just try to explain what's going on to those people.

You know, I find your personal attacks quite disappointing. I never publicly expressed my opinion on this, yet you are attacking me personally, and tell me I have no spine. I can only give back that you seem quite divisive and are driving personal attacks, something which seems quite inappropriate for a community manager, whose role it should be to be integrative, not divisive or attacking.

And anyway, even if this blog story had contained an apology: it's better to apologize once too often, than once to few. You as a community manage should know that.

Posted by jospoortvliet at Mon Mar 28 15:55:25 2011
sorry for being a bit more harsh than was probably really called or. Still:

"we do acknowledge it is not ideal" should've been "grow up".

That is what you should say to ppl who complain about it.

Seriously, unless we all work on it, this silly culture won't change. Sorry that I took it out on you so hard but having this whole discussion about collaboration and then seeing you basically validating the silly idea that it's bad to use anything 'from the other camp', while on the organization of a cross-desktop conference no less - a big MEH.