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Posted by J at Fri Oct 12 22:15:38 2007
Hey do you know that not everyone is a fluent english speaker? For example, I speak french and secondarily german but not really english (as you see).

Posted by Lennart at Fri Oct 12 22:26:37 2007
J: sure, not everyone speaks english. But maybe non-english posts should be redirected to some language-specific planet? That's the way GNOME does it. English language posts are shown on planet gnome, and for other languages there is gnome-fr, and gnome-de, and so on.

Posted by Mathias Hasselmann at Fri Oct 12 23:04:36 2007
Lennart, I absolutly agree with you, but seems quite some quite vocal freaks enjoy this crap. :-/

I hate spam.

Posted by jef at Fri Oct 12 23:27:06 2007
Is there a way to mark feeds as primarily one language or another and let individual clients choose via some sort of browser cookie set a prefered language?

Personally i don't have a problem with different languages in the same aggregate feed..as long as the information i'm getting isn't duplicated.

What i don't enjoy seeing is translated information from one feed showing up pretty much verbatim as posts in another feed like what happened with the linux daily package stuff for a while.

-jef"we wouldn't be having this problem if we all just agreed to finally just speak esperanto"spaleta

Posted by Stephen Smoogen at Fri Oct 12 23:48:31 2007
Yes you are the only one. Its a lonely position, but someone had to have it.

:)

Posted by Göran at Sat Oct 13 00:12:59 2007
No, because I read all those languages.

Posted by Michael DeHaan at Sat Oct 13 01:40:34 2007
Yep, I unsubscribed (unfortunately) because it was too much scrolling in my RSS feed for things I couldn't read.

Multi-language support is awesome, I encourage it, but I think seperate feeds would be a good idea, so I can select things like "english+klingon" and leave out the ones I don't know -- at least in RSS.  Can that be done now?

Posted by RSS at Sat Oct 13 02:08:07 2007
This debate was had before. Everybody lost.

Posted by Blah at Sat Oct 13 02:27:21 2007
I don't know about p.f.o. but your message is spam on planet gnome, thanks!

Posted by ken at Sat Oct 13 04:19:20 2007
I used to not pay attention when my boss (who spoke many languages) spoke with visitors in their native language.  Then he told me to stop being so rude, and that for western European languages, at least, there are so many cognates you can often figure out what is being said, even if you've never studied that language.  It's true.

Now, Japanese is a different story.  I know a little spoken Japanese, and no written Japanese (and cognates are basically nonexistent).  But as with everything else, instead of asking people to get off the internet if they're posting something I don't like, I just ignore it.  (Suggestions for how to learn written Japanese welcome!)

Posted by Rudd-O at Sat Oct 13 04:21:34 2007
Aye aye, brother.  I hear ya.

Posted by Evildead at Sat Oct 13 11:18:03 2007
Do you speak any other language than English? C'est toujours drôle de voir que les anglophones pensent que c'est aux autres d'apprendre l'Anglais. Do you realize that most people around the world have to learn other languages? Alors pourquoi les anglophones seraient-ils les seuls à ne pas devoir faire d'efforts pour communique ?

Posted by red at Sat Oct 13 12:14:48 2007
Wait a moment - you don't like any language but English but your blog is called "Kaisergemuese"?!

I personally write German in my blog and therefore also on Planet Fedora. I also read posts in other languages if they seem interesting and I might have the skills to understand at least a little.

On the other side, I don't read many posts in English and German just because they're not interesting. Should people stop to blog about Gnome, because there are some readers that don't want to hear anything about it?

Personally, I only see one spam problem: people have linked up their whole blog on Planet Fedora, including the posts not related to Fedora in any way. I only have my Fedora category's feed on Planet Fedora.

Posted by Peter Lemenkov at Sat Oct 13 15:24:31 2007
К сожалению, не смог прочитать ваше сообщение, как и множество других, т.к. оно написано на английском.

Posted by Jeff Schroeder at Sat Oct 13 19:55:38 2007
No, you are 100% correct. This is the reason that I took planet fedora out of liferea and stopped looking at it.

Posted by Petou at Sun Oct 14 01:27:07 2007
Have you ever heard about tolerance ? Even if english is one of the most important langage in the computer-related field, it doesn't that everyone have to speak or write in this language. As you have noticed I'm french and I'm particulary fed up with these kind of posts because it's totally unconstructive.
Think about Google Translate and perhaps you will learn to have a different look over the world.

Posted by Philip at Sun Oct 14 08:52:43 2007
In short, yes, you are.

Posted by nicu buculei at Mon Oct 15 12:24:08 2007
There is Planet Fedora-fr aggregating French blogers, there may be some others, but there are two use cases:
- a blogger post regularly in both English and his native language;
- a language community may be too small to get an useful planet (that would be the case for Romanian)

I am, as you guessed probably, a Romanian guy with an English blog. Even so, from time to time I feel the need to write something in my native language. I try to not do it and in the rare case when I do, I post the text in both languages.

Posted by tenshu at Mon Oct 15 15:29:25 2007
your such a stupid guy

No the world isn't USA property, people living out there and like to speak they own langage (what a shame really)

My first was to type "va te faire foutre" wich means "go fuck yourself"

But i'm not as tupid as you are.
Go out, breath the air, enter a school class and revise your geography.

Posted by Sasha at Sat Oct 20 15:26:01 2007
Are you too stupid to learn another language? Fedora planet is about a worldwide community, think about that...

Posted by Just a thought at Tue Jul 15 12:06:32 2008
Isn't it common practice the agree on some sort of protocol for communication? Otherwise learning 5 different languages is a requirement of being a part of a community.
Isn't being a part of a community about achieving common goals in the best way possible?

I know it's useless, opensource people are just to damn stiff.

ps I'm Dutch